Episode Transcript
[00:00:27] Speaker A: Much money.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: Yo, yo, yo.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Yo.
Welcome. Welcome to Toxicity. Want to thank everybody for coming out today, man. We're going to talk about a real touching subject. Real, real touching subject. Men's mental health.
And out of 100,000 men, you got, what, 14,590 of them commit suicide every year?
This is a real deep topic. But you got me today here. Titus, my guest.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: When you gonna introduce with the ink, man?
[00:01:15] Speaker C: Will it, man, you.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: Then they be too chilling.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Before we really get into it, man, let me say this. If there's anybody out there that's really struggling with mental health and you're really contemplating suicide, man, call or text 988, you know, or call home. Text home to 747-41741, you know, reach out, get the help that you need. Call to cross the line.
We know how bad it is. We know how tough it is.
We all been there. So let's. Let's open this up, man. Will, what you got to share with us?
[00:01:51] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, it's a fact for you.
One man dies by suicide every minute.
I say that to say this. Check on your people. The men especially, you know, we always taught to be providers, protectors, and caregivers, but sometimes, you know, we need their hands. Sometimes we need somebody to a, you know, lift us up. When I head down, I'm saying not just expect, expect, expect. Because you're a man with the ink. What you got to say, man.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: Since.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: Y' all already said the most. But I just feel like when that man come home, he should have to deal with fighting the streets and fighting your ass.
You know what I'm saying?
Me, personally, I ain't. I ain't going.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: I just.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: I'm gonna just get another one, bro.
[00:02:51] Speaker C: They said they can't hear, we can't hear.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: No, we get. Fine, man. I'm gonna say what my issue is, man.
I feel like probably the most challenging issues is being economic issues, not. Yeah, at home. Yeah. In the house. I deal with a lot of stress. Yeah, you're gonna deal with the stress in relationships. You got to learn how to cope with that. You got to learn how to motivate one another and try to inspire one another, because, you know, you're dealing with more stress and more pressures in society on economic level than anything, especially as black men. We got a mountain in front of us that we got to climb before we even get to a level where we can actually function, you know? So it's been.
So. It's always difficult.
Always, always difficult. On that note, but we.
Having. Having a strong partner, having a strong support system, having a strong. Having an understanding partner, having an understanding support system, having people that actually care aids and helps you through gets through a lot. I mean, Magic coming home. Magic coming home.
You don't work. You don't work. You don't put it in. You done got through. You done strive to get past all the obstacles and all the struggles you deal with in a daily basis.
You done been stopped by the police.
You done.
You done been, you know, you done been ridiculed and criticized by your boss man. When you were doing everything in your power to try to get away, you know, just everything seemed to be happening against you. And then you get home and your significant other just sitting there like she don't care about nothing you going through, sitting there about. You know what I mean? Like, you bothering her by coming home or you bothering her by being around.
Then she got her issues and her gripes, or how you just sit down instead of getting. Instead of going to take a shower first or you sit down instead of, you know, taking the garbage out for. Or it's some type of issue, some type of poke, you know, I mean, that disturbs your peace.
How do you handle. How do you deal with it?
How you deal with it?
[00:04:47] Speaker D: J.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: I just smoked some weed.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: Huh?
[00:04:55] Speaker A: I just smoked some weed.
No. Cause, like, be weird, bro. Cause like, especially like, when. When you the man who kind of like then got through everything in life by yourself.
So now you just, you know, you. You labeled as a strong man, bro.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: And.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: And a lot of times, like, people just be expecting you to be not human.
You know what I'm saying? Like, you pulled the let roll off your back, bro. You ain't got no emotions or feelings, bro. You just got to do what you got to do as a man. Sometimes that the gift and the curse. But I see, I learned that a long time ago in prison, bro.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: That.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: Just ain't gonna go your way all the time.
And you sit there crying by the man, you know, it ain't gonna change nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just got the.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: I don't know, bro.
Man, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I have. I had a greater piece of behind in prison. I do out here.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: Hey, that's. That's a fact. Oh, yeah, that's a fact.
That is a fact. For one.
I ain't got to worry about that. Five ain't no fine. Yeah.
[00:05:55] Speaker D: You know what I'm saying?
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Like, I can just beat you up and Go on about my day, you know what I'm saying?
[00:06:01] Speaker B: Like, it ain't that. I just ain't had to worry about nobody always and moaning at me. I ain't had to worry about issues, man, I. It was so simple, you know what I mean? Get up, go to go to work out.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: You ain't had to worry about you. Only thing you had to do is worry about you and that bit.
[00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it.
[00:06:17] Speaker C: Ain't no responsibilities, you know, no expectations. I'm gone.
Y' all gonna have to figure it out. I can send some money, but yeah, y' all gonna have to figure everything else out, you know what I'm saying?
[00:06:27] Speaker B: So, so, so will you feel like the, the.
The overwhelming press.
A's in, A's in that. In that stress, A's in that.
A's in that suicide rate.
A's in that crash out mentality.
[00:06:48] Speaker C: If you ain't got no. If you don't have a smart mind, if you don't have a smart mind and you don't have good people around you. Yeah.
The possibilities of you crashing out are very, very high, I'm saying. And it's very important that you keep.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Keep some good people around you.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: For real. For real.
[00:07:03] Speaker C: So when you going through it, you know, hey, that, that Lean On Me song, you know, everybody needs somebody to lean on. Hey, that.
Now you pay attention to them lyrics. Yeah. Hey, everybody need that.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: I ain't lying, cuz you done talk me down I'm crash down I don't know how many times yeah, boy will talk me down Boy will talk me down I crash not many times, I think.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: I think everybody needs somebody like that, though.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: I mean, that's true.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. Because like a lot of people who do be doing the crashing on the seat, them boys, like I feel like a lot of times. But they ain't got nothing to live for either, though, because that kind of snap you back in the. In, in the place too. Like, damn, my son. That'd be my main thing. That, that. The main thing I think about every time, you know what I'm saying? Like my son.
And if I leave, I can't really trust nobody to raise them how I want them to be raised. You know what I'm saying? Like that be like that for real, though.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. Keep you in perspective. I mean, I mean, I know it just, you know, I mean, I done been through it, so you know, me personally, you know, I done. I done seen the other side of all that. I don't I done did the crash now, so I done seen it. I done seen. Not on a, not on a legal level, I'm talking about on the physical level, on a mental level, you know. You know, I've done the therapy I've been in, but I think I've done, I've done anger management three times. I've been in, I've done in lit, I've been in living in therapy Regency for what, a year? You know, the RDAP program where in prison did that.
I did.
I mean, and then just. I just been in therapist. I've been seeing the therapist since I've been 18 years old.
So I mean, it's, it's, it's something, man. Like I just struggle and out of everything, out of therapy, out of medications, out of all these different things to teach you how to think rationally, teach you how to pause and, you know, to try to, and, and use your pros and cons and your rational self analysis and all these different exercises that you're taught in therapy.
All these things that you're taught. At the end of the day, you realize, man, the best thing for you is that support system. Had that one person, had that person to call that you can, that you can vent to, that you can open up to, that ain't gonna judge you, that ain't gonna bring that back up and use it against you, you know, I mean, that's a large part of, large part of the problem, man. We trust the wrong people, we confide.
[00:09:31] Speaker D: In the wrong people.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Then people bring that up and eat that against you and try to judge you based off of it. Then they mistreat you. Then that's, then that's that little push that toss you right over the edge because it's somebody that you really confided in, somebody you really gave your confidence, somebody you really loved and you believed in. They turn around and use something that, so tender, something so, so fragile that you share with them. They turn around and use that, use it against you.
So like it's a, it's a lot, man, to it. I mean, and I, I've been, I've been blessed on, in many ways. I've been blessed to be able to see. I'm talking about being blessed to see guys snap minimally.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: Like I was telling somebody earlier, man, when I was locked up, I literally sitting in front of a homeboy of mine, he received a letter from his girl and he, you know, he smuggled. He got a cell phone, called her doctor. Dude, answer the phone.
I literally Watched him have a stroke in front of me. I'm talking about where he couldn't speak, his body went limp halfway. His face, he couldn't move.
I literally witnessed this in front of me. So I know how powerful a female or relationship can either.
Can break or make a man.
I know how powerful it is, man. And you know, and.
And true enough, we get the same. What. What my mama always tell me, my mom always tell me, we make our own demons.
So. But in us being accountable, yeah, I can accept the fact, okay, my mistreatment or my misjudgment or my. My mishandling of a woman created whatever atmosphere or whatever treatment that she's now giving me. But at what point in time can we come together and say, okay, listen, let's take accountability, let's rebuild.
Let's face everything. Because I care enough to be able to rebuild without us being. Without it being crushing or without it being triggering of a crash out.
[00:11:37] Speaker E: I got some comments.
[00:11:39] Speaker C: So with that being said, I think it's important that you recognize your triggers first of all, what I'm saying, so you can better deal with it. I think I was talking to you earlier about introspection. You know, I did a lot of that when I was up the road.
Plus me being in that cell by myself during COVID You ain't even going nowhere for months. You ain't going nowhere. You know what I'm saying?
[00:12:01] Speaker B: So, yeah, yeah, it just.
[00:12:03] Speaker C: Sometimes it takes that, man. You got to be by yourself, man. Figure out what's bothering you, how you going to deal with it.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: Okay. Melvin said he think reading.
He thinks reading and keeping yourself from being too comfortable on things you should work on.
All right, listen, I. I agree Reading, um, to my reading is fundamental. I'm talking about reading helps. Reading helps. You know, I mean, I've survived a lot of my lockup beers reading, but, like, when this.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: A lot of people ain't gonna pick up no book.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's be realistic to me, if I'm.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: Having a bad day, I ain't reading no book.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: It takes a powerful mind to try to sit down.
First of all, I gotta be. I gotta be in a peaceful state of mind for me to be able to read, because I like to comprehend what I read. I like to be able to see what I read. It's the difference with me reading something now I can read a sentence and then get to the next paragraph. Don't even know what I even read.
So I don't think in that moment, I don't think Reading is gonna be something that's gonna help you through that. It's not gonna help you through that.
You know what I mean?
But it's a good thought. At the end of the day, maybe being red too. Maybe having somebody, significant other, somebody care enough for you to calm you down and read to you. Might.
Might be more of a.
Might be more of a thing. Like. I know I'm talking about. I know I could take it in my. In my. In my girl sitting me down and read to me.
I know that would mean a lot to me. That would mean a whole lot to me. She see me stressing. She see me going through it, and she tell me, just, baby, lay down, Let me read to you what you want to hear, what you want to read. She read to me. Yeah, I would love that. I would appreciate that. That would definitely bring me into. Bring me into a more calm mind frame.
What would.
So tell me this, man.
What would.
From a.
From a male perspective, what would you expect?
You can even chime in on this one.
What would you expect from your significant other if you were in a state where you just really ready to crash out? You just really just had it, can't take it. You can't figure it out. Too many responsibilities, bills backed up, you don't know what to do.
You know what I mean?
Everything's just coming down on you at one time.
Your girl acting funny. She ain't paying you no attention. She got an attitude to you. I'm Tom all day, you know, she just turned her location off yesterday, you know what I mean?
Like last night when you got in the bed, she scooted away from you.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: And that's a real thing.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: These things that we notice as a man, when I lay down with my significant other, if she is scooting towards me and she's scooting away from me. Oh, we got.
Concerning something going on.
So what's the. What's the question?
[00:14:55] Speaker E: What's the actual question?
[00:14:56] Speaker B: How you gonna deal with it? How would you deal with it?
[00:15:00] Speaker E: What do I expect from her?
[00:15:01] Speaker B: You wrecked at the brink like this.
[00:15:03] Speaker E: And what do I expect from her? And you asked me what I expect from her when I'm about to crash out.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: So right when you about to crash out, what would you expect her? If you communicate to her, man, listen, I'm just. I can't deal with this. I'm about ready to crash out.
[00:15:14] Speaker E: What do I need from her? Yeah, I need her to hush the fuck up.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: You need her to shut up.
[00:15:20] Speaker E: Just shut up.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Yeah, bro, just shut Up.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: Don't say nothing.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Just.
[00:15:23] Speaker D: Just.
[00:15:24] Speaker C: Don't say.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: Just. Just.
[00:15:26] Speaker E: Just be quiet. Like, let me be. Let me try to figure out how to deal. Let me figure out what I need to do to get what I need to get to. But they just need to just be quiet. Like, sometimes I just need time to figure it out. Like, I don't need your help. I don't need to. Because at the end of the day.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: You ain't gonna do nothing but bring.
[00:15:41] Speaker E: Me more problems than anything. But it. Like, in this moment that I'm trying.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: To figure it out. Shut up.
Shut up.
[00:15:49] Speaker E: Leave me alone.
Just leave me be.
Shut the up and leave me alone.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Like, that's all I asked for.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: I asked for a little bit of.
[00:15:56] Speaker E: Peace so I can figure it out. Because if you yapping and trying. You yapping ain't helping me figure nothing out.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Hey, you know how many women be like, oh, he was. I could just tell he was. He was. He was cheating because he was acting different. That just could have been going through some.
[00:16:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Sometimes just shut up and leave me alone.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: And if I talk to you about it, ain't gonna be no solution in it. No need to figure this out.
[00:16:15] Speaker E: Exactly. Because you ain't your. You about to give me some money.
[00:16:19] Speaker D: No.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: And I don't know why. A lot of people. I just told this last night, though. I get better with isolation. So a lot of times, I just want to be by myself and hear air. And when I say hear air, that means I don't want to hear.
[00:16:31] Speaker E: Yeah. I don't want to talk. Like, let me figure it out. Like, let me get in my own space. Let me get in my own mind. Like, I don't need you continuously trying to help me figure it out. Because what you're gonna try to do, it ain't gonna do nothing but irritate me.
[00:16:42] Speaker C: But in that same sentence, though.
[00:16:44] Speaker B: Right. Okay.
[00:16:45] Speaker C: I always heard people say this.
The person you decide to spend the rest of your life with gonna be one of the most important decisions you make in your life. So with that being said, you need to know what type of person or what type of partner you're dealing with.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: Now.
[00:16:58] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying.
[00:16:59] Speaker E: But at the end of the day, like, if I'm about to.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Ready.
[00:17:01] Speaker E: If I'm like. You're right. Right.
So then that means that she should know me enough to know that this is that line. And you got one more step.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:11] Speaker E: Before I lose it.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: So let's. Let's deal with your problems together. Not Let you deal with your problems by yourself, but let's come up with a solution together. Not let me get on your nerves, but let me provide some type of insight because maybe, maybe as your partner, I can see things from a point of view that you're not looking at.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: I agree what you're saying, but you had that bringer hold up. The key question. The key to the question is when you're at that point, you're literally one moment away from crashing out.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: And that would I be saying, you.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: Know what I mean?
[00:17:41] Speaker E: And that's in that moment, like I'm thinking, like sometimes helping me is just being quiet.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:49] Speaker E: You can just listen to me and I. Let me work through it.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: You can sit there and rub my head, rub my back and just let me talk, man.
[00:17:57] Speaker B: Listen.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Because when you come in and talk about what your boss did, all this, that the third a. Just let you talk. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes that's all you need.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: I'm simple, man, just. You ain't got to do nothing. Just be there. Yeah, that's it.
[00:18:08] Speaker E: Just be there.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: You ain't got to talk.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: That's it, bro.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: You ain't got to do nothing but beat it. You lay your head on my. You can lay your head on my lap while I'm sitting there thinking you could just cuddle with me. You could just. I'm talking. Just make sure I feel your presence. You know what I'm saying? I feel that you care.
That just. Just being able to acknowledge, okay, she care. She's about her presence is comforting, man, that's enough.
That's enough. Because believe me, believe it or not, if what she do in that moment is going to dictate a lot.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: Yes, sir.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Because if she act like she don't care or like she got an attitude or like she ain't. She don't want to be bothered. Yeah, that's going.
That's going to contribute to the. To the frustration I'm already experiencing. It's going to contribute to the anxiety that I'm already experiencing. But if she gives me that moment of silence, she give me that respect of saying, well, I'm just going to be here for him. I'm just going to hold him. I'm just going to sit back and try to be comforting presence instead of talking or just ask, baby, what do you need from me? I'm simply say, man, just be here.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: And see, a lot of times people don't. People don't let you talk that way.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: I'm going to be at people don't.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: Let you talk to kind of like free your mind. People want to. People just want to be right at all times, you know what I'm saying? Like, it don't matter what it is, bro. That why I just learned how to shut the up.
Just shut the up.
[00:19:23] Speaker E: That's an art.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: And see, be like, oh, you just over abused the weed. I think like with me, it kind of be like, you know how like they tell you, you just need to breathe, bro.
You just need to breathe, calm down, breathe, bro, when you smoking, you breathing. Deep breath in, deep breath in.
So it might not even be the smoke, you know what I'm saying? Like you. You just calming yourself down, bro. That just show. That's you in your moment.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: But man, when I'm there, I don't want to smoke, I don't want to drink. I want to do nothing. I need to talk.
I need. I need my mind. I need my mind to come to some type of rational explanation and be able to ground itself on a productive and positive solution. Something that I can actually pursue, something that I can actually utilize that's going to resolve my issues and something that's going to aid me going forward.
I don't want to. I don't want to blind myself to nothing. I don't want to cloud it out.
I don't want to just try to forget and say, okay, I'm gonna deal with it tomorrow because it's gonna be the same situation tomorrow. Yep. You know what I mean?
I got to figure it out. I don't care if I sit down. One thing I used to do while I was locked up on my bids was I used to write my. My thoughts wouldn't let me go until I wrote them. I had to write myself. I wrote myself letters. You know what I'm saying? I wrote myself or my mama, you know what I mean? And like my mama to the day got this whole.
This whole business plan.
Four Oasis y' all see today? Yeah, I wrote that back in 2003, 2005, while I was on lockup, you know what I mean? So it was called the Jungle.
It's just different concepts, different ideas, different. Different things about the way my mind works. I have to get it off my mind. I have to put it on a piece of paper. So that's how. That's how I deal with it better, I feel like.
But if I got somebody that I can confine and I got somebody to give me a sense of peace, somebody that can. That I care about it, I don't care about me. Yeah, that's going. That's gonna help me through the situation.
That'll allow me be able to believe in myself a little bit more. Because I got somebody that's empowering me, that's believing in me.
That's just me.
But if I ain't got that, well, that crash out is me.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Greg say, just. Just be there. Her NJ itself should bring peace to you. These hoes ain't got no peace, OG These hoes ain't come with no piece OG they just want to put that salty monkey on your ass, you know, hey, hey, your life supposed to be all peaches and cream after that, you know what I'm saying? I ain't never ate a saltine cracker in my life. Got better.
You feed me like she that. She go.
I'm just saying, boy, you got there slamming that salty ass monkey on the. And the problem just supposed to leave tomorrow. I still got to face it.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all about game.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: There won't be no peace come with that, man, especially, man.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: Like, I think a lot of problems, man, especially, especially a lot of problems now is economic. It's financial. Yeah, it's financial. It'll just be 100. A lot of problems is financial.
So, I mean, it ain't cheap. It ain't cheap out here.
It is not cheap out here. It is up to my mind. God. You know, I tell my partner's, boy, when you get out, boy, I hope y' all know y'. All. Y' all have to work at least two jobs. You can't work no one job out here.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: On my mama, you gotta have a.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: Job and a hustle. It's hard. And if you got a partner that ain't contributing, oh, you got a partner ain't willing to contribute, ain't really putting nothing on the table or she got some type of issue about, you know, contributing any about division or the blueprint. None of y'. All. Y' all ain't working together. Together try to reach them level of wealth or the level of financial freedom. Oh, man, y' all in for her that. You in for her that constantly hurt. Constantly hurt. Constantly hurt.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: Ain't turn 25, no boy.
Can't just sit around no more, man.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: Y' all gotta work together.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: I ain't seen. I ain't trying to, you know, I ain't trying to, you know what I'm saying? Like, say so, but I ain't walk past no woman yet and be like, oh, I just want to take care of you, you know, What I'm saying like I don't know. I don't know about everybody else, but that's just me. Boy, you got to bring me something too. You ain't bringing me.
I can't do nothing with you.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: I ain't going to lie. I have but anyway.
[00:23:36] Speaker A: But listen though that to each his.
[00:23:39] Speaker C: Own teach his own.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: But, but, but, but I have, I have taken care of and listen to this day.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Has it helped your situation to hurt your situation?
Did it help your situation to hurt your situation? What you mean by taking care of? By being that? By being it. Because I think we talked about this before and we talked about it. I believe that if I'm taking care of you, number five, providing for you 100. That's giving you the opportunity to go out and do other stuff so you can bring and contribute more to what we got going on. You should be able to put more in. While I'm doing everything right here, let just give you a green that just gives you air an opportunity to go produce more so you can help take us to the next level.
Look at I love to use Gucci wife Kisha Dior, you know what I'm saying? How she did he did his part. When she was given the opportunity to do her part, she did her part.
She could have just sat on that.
She multiplied it.
So to have a woman to multiply what you create, man, no, that's priceless.
That's priceless.
Let me get.
Never mind. Let me show.
[00:24:56] Speaker C: Some of the Titus said I have.
[00:24:58] Speaker E: That ain't on.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah Greg, I am. I ain't gonna see the name Cap, man. Listen, I want to be in a situation where I can take care of mine, me and mine and whoever I'm in love with, whoever I'm with or whatever may be the case. You know what I'm saying? Like whether it's my, whether it's my daughters, my loves, my heart like my parents, like I want to be able to pay all my parents bills. I want to be able to pay all my daughter's bills. I want to pay all my kids get bills. I want to be able to provide, provide opportunities for my grandkids and my kids, man, that I don't feel like bills should be a focus point. I don't feel like nobody should be busting their ass just to focus on paying the bill. You should be focusing your behind on trying to create your blueprint and trying to execute your blueprint and trying to rise and try to reach financial freedom and trying to reach financial wealth. It's different. Goals should be. Goals should be different. You got a lot of people working day to day stressing themselves, about to kill themselves because they can't pay their bills. They working to pay bills. They're working to pay bills and to live. Okay. As long as I'm paying my bills and I can go out on the weekend, I'm content, bro. That's the wrong set of goals.
That's the wrong set of goals, man. I feel I'm talking about, man, my goals is I got a blueprint. I'm gonna execute that blueprint. I'm gonna try to build out that blueprint. So for me to be able to pay my daughter's bills or my on to my people, I care about bills, my parents, bills, I'm offering them an opportunity to be able to go do something else and do something more with themselves and be able to contribute more to the fold and more to the foundation of our family. That's what I'm executing. That's what I'm focused on.
So that's why that's what it mean to me, to pay bills.
Y' all slowing these comments online, man.
Greg, you be paying bills, Pg. You ain't got no choice, huh? Yeah. Talk about who?
About Yoshi and his mic.
You want to make a tribute? So let me ask you this, right?
We ain't gonna get too much crowd participation.
Ladies, what do you expect to get to your man?
Let me hear this.
What do you expect of your man?
Or better yet, I think it's important.
[00:27:35] Speaker C: To ask this though, right? Like, what does a man get from a relationship but love.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: But love, you said, what do you get? Butt love.
[00:27:48] Speaker C: No, I'm asking what does a man get out of a relationship?
[00:27:51] Speaker B: What do you feel like? Let me ask you this, man. Well, if your girl's stressing, let's. Let's flip it. Your girl's stressing.
You see you, you see her goddamn in the crash out mode. You see her looking out there all crazy eyed and goddamn, she got the white mouth, crazy eyes. She's looking all over the place.
She's snapping, you know, I mean, you can tell she about ready to crash out.
How do you help her through it?
[00:28:20] Speaker C: It's simple, man. You put your hand on the back of her shoulder and you ask her what the problems is, man? What are the problems and how can I fix that? And now it's our attendance. It's gonna be something that you can, you can fix other than death. You can fix any problem a woman.
[00:28:33] Speaker B: Can bring to you.
[00:28:35] Speaker C: That can't be said on, you know what I'm saying? When the show on the other foot.
But as for us, like, you know, as protectors and providers. Hey, what's the problem? Let me fix it.
Simple.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, I think. I don't think it's just that simple, man. If I see you about to crash out and I see her really stretching through something like you say, I'm gonna try to be there. Similar to what? I just want to hold her. I just want to sit there and talk to her. I just want to sit in, be her. Be her voice of reasoning, you know, help her seek out an understanding and help her seek out some solution.
My phone. You trying to break.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: I tell you what, it ain't gonna be all scenes.
[00:29:20] Speaker B: Yep. Jay would Inc. Would have been doing a tattoo tomorrow for a brand new phone.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Damn.
You know you.
[00:29:27] Speaker B: All right.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: You can work something up.
But listen now.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Okay, go ahead.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Cause y' all got on my ass and I felt like so. So you take care of too.
[00:29:46] Speaker C: Take care. Provide for or take care of.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: Two different.
[00:29:49] Speaker C: They two different. They mean two different things.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Okay. All right. So take care of is like, hey, listen, you liking.
[00:29:55] Speaker C: I got it.
[00:29:56] Speaker A: So. So listen, you. You take.
[00:29:57] Speaker B: Let's do this.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: You too, though.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: Let's do this.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: Where them at though?
[00:30:01] Speaker B: Let's do this. For the sake of public speaking, right.
Let's refrain from using.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Okay, okay, my bad, my bad.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: All right.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: So listen, the woman who you take care of and the women who you take care of. Cause I done did it too.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I've done it.
[00:30:13] Speaker C: Where they at, but anybody ever took care of.
[00:30:15] Speaker A: Where they at, though?
[00:30:16] Speaker B: They chipped in.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: But where they at though? OG right. So all they did was get an experience out of us. That what I'm saying. I don't be giving a fuck.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: I.
[00:30:26] Speaker C: We could.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: I could cash out. You know what I'm saying? Gonna be worth that real talk. Especially if I didn't spend some money and spent some money. Spent some money. Spent some money and get some ass. That ain't worth me spending no money.
Oh, that cut off.
[00:30:38] Speaker B: I ain't a lot. I've been disappointed. I've been disappointed. I'm talking about because for the simple fact where I feel like. I feel like this, if I've always been there not being Mr. Reliable and I've always trying to do it right.
[00:30:50] Speaker D: The.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: The moment I make a mistake, all hell broke loose. Everything's off the board. Everything got onto my life as a man.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: You could do eight out to ten things right? But them two things that you don't do that right. Gonna be so loud, they gonna outweigh the other eight. Now as a man, our partner, they can do two out of 10. And we feel like we could just. Yeah, I can show you. I can show you what, dude, that ain't meant for this, man.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like, but hey.
[00:31:23] Speaker B: Yeah, listen. Okay, yeah, we are getting off subject. Like, like, like Greg said, we didn't drove too deep into the mental health thing, the mental health element of it.
Right?
Yeah. So let's get back on that. Let's get back on that. You know, I mean how do you, how do you recognize somebody that's going through.
Can you recognize or how can you identify somebody that's actually going through some type of mental distress or stress to the degree to where you feel like it's a concern?
I feel like, hey, do I notify, do I reach out to them? Do I offer them to somebody to talk to? Do I, I go beyond him? At what point do you go beyond that person and speak with somebody in their behalf? When you see that they, you know, I mean when they going through something to be fitting it from crashing out if you care about them.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: I just feel like, like as a, I just pay attention to everything, you know what I'm saying? So like what character, how yo your pattern, your pattern, your voice yo me, that how I pay attention to my friends, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I hit you up just on the random note, you know what I'm saying?
And a lot of times, bro, I could tell by what niggas sharing on Facebook too, you know what I'm saying? Like I just pay attention to everything, bro. So like if I hit you up, I hear something in your voice, bro, I'm trying to ask you, bro.
I know how it is when you.
[00:32:45] Speaker C: Don'T want to talk though.
[00:32:45] Speaker A: So I ain't going to beat it at you, you know what I'm saying? But like I let my know I'm here, you know what I'm saying? I ain't, I ain't gonna necessarily.
I ain't gonna have the solution for you all the time. But bro, listen, and we can come up with a solution together, you know what I'm saying? Like on some, on some non judgmental or you know, I mean whatever the case may be bro, like, but that, that's what we posted. People, Brian have been, I didn't been like more of a friend than people was to me a long time. You Know what I'm saying? So, bro, when you run across real people, bro, you stick with it. We grown up.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, man. Let me tell you something. I think that's probably the most hard shadow on a middle level. You got people that sit up under you that you look out for, that you do for.
Then they betray you.
They betray you.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: People only for sale.
[00:33:35] Speaker B: That. That for me is like, what the, bro? Cause I don't deserve that I should.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Do something to you.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: I'm the type of. I'm the type of dude, I do anything for anybody that I care about, anybody I with, okay? So. So how in the hell can you do something dirty to me?
[00:33:53] Speaker A: And see, listen, that's. That's. I think that would make me crash out more than like, and what she do, period. Because, like, why are you gonna do something to me I wouldn't do to you? And you know I wouldn't do it to you.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: See, that's my crash out. So my crash out is. Well, I've got a lot better now. Don't touch me.
Don't touch me. You touch me, you hit me, you strike me, you do anything to me, I'm gonna strike you back.
You know, talking about, don't threaten me, don't try to play me, don't try to handle me. You know, in a way, the way it promotes any type of physical. Because I'm gonna answer you. Because I'm a man. At the end of the day, I'm a man. I ain't trying to play tough. I ain't trying to be tough. But at the end of the day, I feel like I'm a man. I gotta go to sleep or whatever I encounter, whatever I experience in the daytime, I gotta be able to go to sleep with that.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: You know what I'm talking about? So I. I can't. Some people can deal. Some people can deal with somebody looking them in their face, you know what I mean? Threatening them, tell them they gonna do this, and then the third, and they walk away from it. You know what I mean?
I didn't come up.
I didn't come up. I didn't come up that way. I didn't. My life did not give me a life of experiences to allow me to be able to come up that way. Because if I. In my mind frame, if I let somebody threaten me, talk to me, belittle me, chuck me in my face, then he gonna do it again.
And next time when he do it, he's liable to actually follow through what the hell he said. He was gonna do the first time.
[00:35:17] Speaker A: I can't go to sleep like that, bro.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: Well, I can't do it. I can't do it.
What's the saying? A soldier died one death, a coward dies thousand for a week. You know what I'm saying? That's and it's real. Because what you do is you inviting people to mistreat you. If you allow them to continue to mistreat you and then continue to threaten you or continue to touch you as a man. But my fallacy in that is what I've learned and what I've come to terms with now is because of the level that I now exist and live on, I would 911 you. I'm not gonna put my hand on.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: Cuz you already know what going on.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Listen, cuz in every situation where I've been provoked, I turn around and people call the police on me or try to sue me, you know, And I didn't even cause the issue in the start place. I didn't even start. I didn't cause it, I didn't provoke it, I didn't initiate it.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: I didn't do none of that n that just in.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: But in the end, I'm the villain, I'm the bad guy.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: No, that just come from being like how we were saying in the beginning, that strong man, bro. People just expect for you to be able to take whatever. Then when you successful too oh a be like, oh, they got too much to lose or I lose it too.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: Now listen, you got to understand, you talking about stress. You talking about stress.
Stress is being an entrepreneur. Yeah, 100% entrepreneur. That is stress. That is a unearthly amount of stress where you are responsible for so many other people's lifestyles. I have, I have what, 52 people on my payroll. I'm responsible for. Then my family, then my bill, then other things. It is a lot and it's stressful. So when you got people outside of you constantly coming at you, constantly coming in the public. I got the public constant coming at me, villainizing me, talking trash about me, making me out, being somebody that I'm not, It's frustrating.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: Okay, then pop it. Say it again. You know what I'm saying?
[00:37:24] Speaker B: Hey, but we deal with this. That's all I'm talking about. I'm just speaking on my, on my situation, man. We deal with this and it's stressful. I push through. I continue to take care of my family. I still wake up in the morning, I take my daughter to school and I push through my day. I mean, that's just what it is. But we go through that, and that's stressful. Now. I have my bad days, not have my great days, you know, I got a supporting cast. I'm blessed to have a supporting cast. I got great friends like Willie. I got great friends like Jay that when I'm stressing, I call, you know what I mean? So they gonna trend too. You know what I'm talking about? So I'm talking about when. When I'm going through it. So people need that.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: I support that, though, cuz.
[00:38:05] Speaker B: Like, people need that.
[00:38:06] Speaker A: I rather you call me and we have conversations, bro, then like me wishing we could have a conversation.
You feel what I'm saying? Like, and then, bro, people will let you get to that point, knowing you already to that point, let you crash out, bro, and then act like they miss you when you gone. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it is like. I mean, just being a man. Peer, bro.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: Hard, bro. It's hard. You're right, it's hard. The expectations are unrealistic. Hard. I feel like that's unrealistic. Hard, bro. You know, we expect to be there for everybody and nobody. Nobody's entitled to be there for us. And we wrong if we expect anybody to be there for us. You got.
And it we wrong for expecting to be. We can't even express ourselves. That comes off weak.
[00:38:52] Speaker C: Assassin.
[00:38:54] Speaker B: Huh?
[00:38:54] Speaker C: Assassin.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: Assassin.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: I'll be glad no more of us. Learn another word, bro.
Everybody know the same word. They just know ain't gonna trigger you, bro. Oh, you saying girl?
That be some young girls, man.
That be some young girls that I.
[00:39:14] Speaker B: Call you that, man. I want to say this, man.
[00:39:16] Speaker D: It's.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: And this goes to male and female in these relationships, man. Y' all gotta be mindful, man. Everybody got their limits.
And when you're doing somebody wrong and you toying with their mental, man, just be honest and be respectful enough to lead the situation.
Show them that much caring and respect just to lead the situation.
Don't stay in a situation you know, you don't mean well by. Don't hang up under somebody you know, you don't care about, don't you don't. You don't want to do right by them because what you're doing, you're toying with them. You're insulting the intelligence. And you're gearing them up, you know, and they notice it. They see it. The guy a guy knows if you don't want him or not, and he's constantly trying to get you over and get. And win you over. And you don't want him. But you're in a relationship. You show up, but you're not showing up.
You're still entertaining others. You're still doing. You playing games right in his face or same. Same thing. Vice versa. Guys, you doing the same. You playing right in her face. You don't want to let her go.
Do you want. Dude, you don't want to let her go. Lady, if you don't want them, let them go. Y' all playing with these people, and you push them and. And that mental is fragile. So when they crash and they snap and you like, oh, now you want to play victim because you done mentally and emotionally abused them. Now you want to play victim because they don't snap. This female, she doesn't snap. She know best you call or she done try to cut you. She done hit you with the grits of baby. All what?
Hey, scared over now. He getting scared.
[00:40:44] Speaker A: I ain't scared. I just. Man, listen, hey, you can take a lot more than me. Cause I know you went, I ain't taking them.
[00:40:50] Speaker B: Get your baby on. They go, I'll take that.
There you go. But I'm just saying, like the same thing, vice versa. Am I saying that that physical is right and justified because of emotional amenities? No, I'm not saying that at all. You're wrong all the way around the board. You're wrong for the emotional, you're wrong for the mental, and you're wrong for the physical. But you got to be mindful of the consequences of your actions. You got to be mindful of the effects and the cause and the impact of your actions. You know, if you torment somebody, you liable to push them to do something they ain't never done before out of emotional and mental distress. They done snap, they done crashed out. They don't know. Then they taking their frustration out, the source of what's causing it, you know, so when you could be the healer, you could be the motivator, you could be the inspiration that makes them great.
You stayed in the situation, you made it worse, and you broke this person.
And now in. In. In the midst of their breaking, they may have attacked you, or they may have mentally and emotionally turned around and abused you. Whatever may be the case, it's still unhealthy, toxic situation. I think honesty is the crux that kills all of it. If you're just honest enough to be able to say, listen, this ain't it for me. This doesn't have the situation for me. I don't Desire this. Hey, let's just.
Let's take a step. Let's take some steps back. Let's try our friendship. Let's just try something that's more fitting for where I'm at with the situation, you know, instead of forcing something on yourself or playing with somebody, you know, you ain't legitimately know, genuinely involved or you don't really care about them on that level, because what you're doing is putting yourself in potential danger and them too. And you're wrong for that.
Dead wrong for that. I feel like everybody got to take responsibility along the line, man. Like, everybody, you know, you. Well, like my mom says, man, you know, we make our demons, we create them, you know, so if you. If you got to be responsible for that, you take it and separate yourself from it.
Be honest with them and think about it, you know? I mean, mental health is real, especially in a man.
I mean, we ain't as strong as you may think.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: I feel like as a man, though, the first step to your piece is just learning how to control what you can control, bro.
You can't control everything and everybody, bro.
Some, you just gotta let ride, man.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: I think that's everybody, though. Ain't that a serenity prayer?
Serenity prayer, yeah. God, grant me to grab me, surrender.
[00:43:13] Speaker C: Accept the things I cannot change. Accept the things I can.
[00:43:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:16] Speaker C: I'm telling you, the wisdom and knowledge.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: You got to be able to. I'm talking about. I think the stupidest thing you could do is get involved with somebody with anticipations or the expectation that you're gonna change them. You ain't changing nobody. You can't accept them for who they is. You don't need to be bothered. You don't need to be. You don't need to be bothered with them.
You're doing them and creating a problem for yourself, you know what I mean? So that is it. What it is.
But again, man, like I said, I keep saying, you're going through it and you're contemplating suicide or anything to that nature. And you. You to that point where you crash now that you. Even if suicide just cross your mind, like, if it's something that just as an option, if it peaks out there, like, man, pump it. I don't even.
It'll be easier if I just leave. I just let go, man. Please seek help. Please dial 988. You know what I mean?
Please contact the crisis line, find you the help that you need. Because that's not the answer, you know? I mean, it's not.
It's Not. I mean, it really not. And I mean, I.
I've been there, and it ain't. It ain't cute.
It ain't what it is.
They.
You got what, that 72 hours in the site, 72 hours in that psych ward?
[00:44:38] Speaker A: Just surround yourself with more positive people, too, man. Like, I know that. Easier said than done, you know what I'm saying? Like, especially with us being, like, product of our. Of our environment or whatever the case may be, you know what I'm saying? Like. But everybody can't go, hey, that's one thing old man told me in prison, bro. You ain't growing until you lose some people around you that you love.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: So.
[00:45:03] Speaker B: Nah, I mean, true. I mean, but you have to accept that people ain't gonna love you for who you are. They gonna. They still. They still love you for who you was.
Yeah. So I had a therapist tell me, I don't care how much you change.
They'll never accept you for who you are. They'll never accept your change. They'll never see it.
You're gonna always be the same person they remember, no matter how you try to change. That's why we still got people to this day. That step to us about things we did in the past, that's the conversation you gotta have. There ain't no conversation. I don't be wanting to have.
[00:45:45] Speaker A: I don't.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: I don't work with no work no more. I don't got no work no more. I want to talk about it.
I ain't doing none of that. I ain't doing nothing illegal. So why I want to have that conversation? Right?
What's happening? What's happening, Man? Chime in.
Look.
[00:46:22] Speaker C: I think it's important that sometimes.
Well, two things. I got two things to touch on. One, I think it's important that we stop tying our happiness to people and things.
The older we get, the more we realize people come and go. Things come and go, whether it be loved ones, family members that you lose along the way, that you thought it was going to be your favor, you know, or relationships, you know, and sometimes we outgrow relationships, you know?
And that plays a part in our mental health as well, you know, Nothing more so than the woman you love. But sometimes that plays a part in our mental and emotional health.
And also stop expecting you are the people, especially.
[00:47:08] Speaker B: Yeah, you tell me that all the time.
Stop respecting you out of.
[00:47:14] Speaker C: I'll give you the shirt off my back. Well, this person ain't cut like that. They ain't cut from that cloth so they.
Yeah, they not gonna give you the shot on their back if they cold.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: And it is what it is.
Yeah. I don't understand that.
I mean, I realize expectations set us up with this appointment.
Right? I do that. I understand that. And they said the wrong thing to do is have expectations. Have unrealistic expectations of others.
Right.
So if you got but principles. Right. Am I wrong for having a principal expectation for others?
Expecting others to act on principle. Basic principles. Honesty, Dignity. Lordy.
Okay, now what? On demand. So how you get mad at me? If you trying to use me or play me, but I decided to cut you off. But you get mad at me.
How you get mad at me Because I stop you from using me?
[00:48:16] Speaker C: That's manipulation, man.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: But you mad at me.
[00:48:19] Speaker C: Manipulation. They ain't mad. They ain't mad at you. They mad you caught on to it.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'm still the same good guy. I'm still cool.
I don't understand.
I don't understand that neither.
But I think that plays.
People change things in and life goes on.
People change things.
My daughter says people change things.
What you say, baby? People change.
[00:48:48] Speaker C: Things change and life goes on.
[00:48:50] Speaker E: Yeah, people change, things end and life goes on.
[00:48:56] Speaker B: Yeah, but you only think like that because you're my daughter.
I told her she only think like that because she's my daughter. The average individual don't think like that.
Let's be real. Don't tell my love. Be real.
[00:49:16] Speaker D: Right?
[00:49:17] Speaker B: Cuz a lot of people can't accept change. A lot of people can't accept the fact that somebody else can't do.
Yeah, don't hit microphone this time.
We talking about men's mental health.
Yeah, we talking about men's mental health. How do you. How do you contribute to your man's mental health?
[00:49:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, she the problem.
Oh, hey, listen. That the one when you come home from work, right? There it more work.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: That would it sound like I'm telling you.
But why are we not assistant? How are we not sister? How we narcissistic?
[00:50:24] Speaker D: Because y' all want to control y' all women.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: If I'm paying all the bills you got down.
[00:50:30] Speaker B: I think.
I think, I think or not. I think y' all women.
I think y' all women. I think y' all women. Hold on, hold up, hold up. I think y' all women call it boundaries. So is it wrong for a man to have boundaries?
[00:50:44] Speaker D: Everybody supposed to have boundaries, right?
[00:50:46] Speaker B: So my boundaries Just simply saying what I will accept and what I want to say.
So if you want to accept it you don't.
[00:50:54] Speaker D: You've been talking ever since your ass been on.
[00:50:59] Speaker C: Hey, so, man, so listen. So check this out. So a man is controlling, but a woman, she just standing on business.
So a man is controlling. And a woman, she just standing on business.
[00:51:09] Speaker D: What is your name?
[00:51:10] Speaker B: Willie.
[00:51:11] Speaker C: Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
[00:51:13] Speaker D: I'm she.
[00:51:14] Speaker C: Nice to meet you.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: No, I'm not.
[00:51:18] Speaker C: No.
[00:51:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
I ain't married.
They ask.
[00:51:25] Speaker B: They all in relationship.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: No, no, no. She all right. Let her do what she going to do.
She.
[00:51:31] Speaker D: She the only one that came up here. They don't know.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: No. All right. Hey, hey. You might be with the. These two up right here, but they got some backup tonight.
They got some backup tonight.
[00:51:42] Speaker D: Now let's do it.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: Come on. Let's do it then. I'm waiting on you. Go ahead. Let's do it.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: The question.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: How we not. How we narcissistic? Because y'. All.
[00:51:51] Speaker D: Y' all want to control. Y' all women, y' all want to tell them what they can and cannot do.
Don't go here, don't go there.
We as women, we have our own mind.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:52:03] Speaker D: Y' all get with us.
[00:52:04] Speaker A: Yes, ma'.
[00:52:05] Speaker D: Am.
You cannot tell us what we can and cannot.
[00:52:08] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: How old are you? How old are you?
[00:52:10] Speaker D: Let me finish.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: You got it.
[00:52:11] Speaker D: I understand.
Anytime you get into a relationship, you got intellectual give and take, give and take, but you can't control us.
All right.
[00:52:21] Speaker A: How old are you?
[00:52:22] Speaker D: How old you think I am?
[00:52:24] Speaker A: 24, 21.
Okay, so let's just say. Let's just say you in the generation ahead of mine.
[00:52:32] Speaker D: Oh, y' all up.
[00:52:33] Speaker A: Okay, then.
[00:52:34] Speaker D: So, boom.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: That what I'm saying. That what I'm saying. So in my case, y' all up. Imma control your ass.
Me personally.
Me personally.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: You gonna.
[00:52:46] Speaker A: You gonna abide by my rules?
Or you could just go, listen, I ain't holding nobody who don't want to be killed. You gonna do what I want you to do.
[00:52:56] Speaker C: Hey, bro, let me ask a question, though. Let me ask you a question. I'm making fast.
How do you expect a man to protect something that he can't control, something that's out of his control? How do you expect him to protect that? Because he's still.
[00:53:07] Speaker B: Hold on.
[00:53:07] Speaker C: Because he's still the protector and the provider.
[00:53:09] Speaker B: Correct?
[00:53:09] Speaker D: And that is.
[00:53:10] Speaker B: That is. That is true, right?
[00:53:14] Speaker D: Anytime, like I say, anytime you're in a relationship, it's give and take.
You a man, when he get with a woman or vice versa, they grown.
They cannot be repran. So if you don't like something, what she doing? Y' all sit down and have a conversation and find some person, but don't sit down. Try to control each other.
Tell each other you can't do this and you can't do that because it's.
[00:53:46] Speaker B: Not going to work. Correct?
[00:53:48] Speaker D: Right?
[00:53:48] Speaker B: That's absolutely true. That's absolutely true.
[00:53:52] Speaker D: Y' all up.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: Hey, listen, but that what I'm telling you, cuz it going to either work with you or you going to work with somebody else. And if you don't work with that somebody else, work with somebody else.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: But see, this the thing, though.
Everything built.
Everything built around respect.
But think about this, though.
Everything's built around respect, right? So, so, so, so, so, so. So she's gonna move in respect to my presence.
[00:54:19] Speaker D: That's right.
[00:54:20] Speaker B: All right. And I'm gonna move in respect to hers. You know what I'm talking about? So she doesn't have to define nor dictate what I can and cannot do.
You know what I'm talking about? Because everything's built on respect.
But I don't need a dictator. I don't need a dictator. I need to be able to communicate. I need to be able to communicate. Hey, that's disturbing to me that I ain't. I ain't like that without you being offended.
Don't talk about. Listen.
But listen. These are my boundaries. My boundaries are simple. This is who I am.
I'm talking about. I don't wear Reeboks. I wear Nikes.
I mean, so you. So listen.
I don't wear Reeboks. I wear Nikes.
I don't wear Reeboks. I wear Nike. Okay, then I don't wear size 6. I wear size 12. I am who I am. So either I fit in your life. I don't. Or you fit in mine. Or you don't.
I can't.
[00:55:08] Speaker D: I know you.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. I can't.
[00:55:12] Speaker A: And see and see and see.
[00:55:14] Speaker D: Listen, that be the problem.
[00:55:17] Speaker A: That be the problem. Anyway. Be the man. It be the hole in y' all damn face. Y' all just be.
[00:55:21] Speaker D: Want to say whatever you want to say.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: I'm 33.
[00:55:26] Speaker D: I'm 33. I'm33.
[00:55:28] Speaker A: With a lot of bills, too. So.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: I want my woman to honor me.
I want her. I want her respect me so much. She.
[00:55:44] Speaker A: Remind your ass one time.
I'm gonna remind you. I'm gonna remind you one time.
[00:55:52] Speaker D: Where.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: I'm at sitting in the podcast.
No, I say I might remind you. One time. And if I got to remind your ass again, I'm just going to get another one.
[00:56:02] Speaker D: Well, go get another. That what I do.
That way I do.
[00:56:09] Speaker A: That's what I do.
[00:56:10] Speaker D: I go get another.
[00:56:14] Speaker A: Love ain't enough.
Love ain't enough. Love ain't never been enough. I can't just love you.
Exactly.
So when.
[00:56:24] Speaker D: So when I'm paying.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: So when I'm paying the rent. So when I'm paying the rent, mortgage.
[00:56:28] Speaker D: Light bill, car payments, all that, you.
[00:56:30] Speaker A: Gonna shut up and you gonna listen. Y' all been yelling the whole damn night.
[00:56:35] Speaker D: Y' all over there Been yelling the whole goddamn night over all the speakers. So you don't get to dictate that I'm talking over you.
[00:56:42] Speaker A: I'm talking over y' all over there. But anyway, like I say, he say turn it down.
[00:56:46] Speaker D: Like I say.
[00:56:48] Speaker A: Like I say, don't set it back.
[00:56:52] Speaker B: You got three minutes. Listen, it's simple. It's simple. Until. All jokes aside, it's simple. It's. It's about respect and honor. It's not about control.
I talking about who. I ain't never want to control nobody. Never want to control nobody. I am who I am, though. Either I fit or I don't. There you go. You little late at the end of the day.
Yeah, but you know. You know, one thing you know about me, I'm going to speak on the truth.
I'm going to speak on the truth, and I ain't going. I ain't going to play real.
[00:57:30] Speaker C: Tell her what you arging about men being narcissist.
[00:57:34] Speaker D: I said me being narcissist.
[00:57:36] Speaker A: She know. She know I go get me a new one.
[00:57:44] Speaker B: We got about two minutes. We got about two minutes.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: We well rounded over here.
I do the ass beat.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: I ain't said I. I didn't say nothing.
I didn't say nothing.
I ain't say nothing.
[00:58:06] Speaker D: If his woman don't do what the he say do, he gonna go with somebody else.
[00:58:12] Speaker A: Because you ungrateful.
[00:58:13] Speaker D: I can get another.
[00:58:15] Speaker A: And guess what. And guess what. You just getting. You're not getting another.
[00:58:19] Speaker D: Y, Y, Y.
Y' all just.
[00:58:21] Speaker A: Y' all be missing that part.
And so you. You ain't never got because you got.
[00:58:35] Speaker B: Oh, Lord. Y' all going hell. Y' all going hell. Okay.
[00:58:40] Speaker D: I ain't cuz. I ain't trying hard to know the is you talking about. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, thank y' all for coming up.
[00:58:52] Speaker A: I. I ain't. I a.
Money dollar, dollar, dollar bill y'.
[00:59:17] Speaker D: All.
[00:59:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
